#150 人人都能当主播的时代，我们要通过播客获得什么？

知识 声东击西第53期 2021-02-10 创建播放：7168次

介绍： #声动活泼陪你过年# 这是春节和朋友聊聊天的系列节目之一。我们不但请大家推荐了一些适合春节期间收听的播客，也请来了一位听播客无数的主播来聊聊她这些年听过的播客。

这位朋友就是 Casticle 的主播糊糊，她是一位资深的播客用户，从 2009 年就开始接触 podcast 这种新型的媒体形式。

对糊糊来说，陪伴感只是播客的附加价值之一。在伦敦完成口译硕士学业的时候，糊糊就会通过各种英文播客来进行语言练习，一集短播客可能反反复复听上十遍。后来除了语言，接受不同的信息和观点，也成为她收听播客的主要原因。

在这期节目中，我们聊到了糊糊是如何用「学术」的方法听播客的；有哪些优质的英文播客值得收听；以及，为什么做好一档介绍播客的播客，没有我们想象得那么简单。

欢迎收听。

【主播】
徐涛，声动活泼联合创始人

【嘉宾】
糊糊，Casticle 主播、口译硕士

【后期】
Luke

【主要话题】
[05:06] 从练口译开始「入坑」播客
[26:24] 六点半起床，边听播客边做笔记
[36:26] 把播客时间交给你信任的人
[47:00] 好的播客能把思辨的过程展现出来

【延伸阅读】

糊糊的播客：Casticle，Casticle是一档探索并发现优质单期英文播客的中文节目。每期节目将为你推荐三期不同主题或类型的英文播客，讲述这些播客的精彩之处，整理与其相关的信息与知识。
播客/广播收听平台：TuneIn Radio
糊糊提到的「磨耳朵」的播客：The Daily（纽约时报旗下节目）；Ted Radio Hour 等 NPR 旗下的播客节目；
提及的其它播客：Scientific American Podcast；Intelligence Squared；Planet Money；Hidden Brian；On Point；This American Life；Freakonomics Radio；Serial Podcast
LinkedIn 联合创始人 Reid Hoffman 的播客：Masters of Scale
徐涛提到的播客单集：Redi Hoffman 采访 Uber CEO：How pirates become the navy
Guy Raz 的播客： How I bulit This
枪枪和任宁的播客：迟早更新
Gimlet 旗下一档讲述创业故事的播客：StartUp
NPR 旗下的一档播客：Invisibilia，将故事与心理科学结合在一起，让你用不同的视角看待生活。
99% Invisible：由 Roman Mars 创立的一档播客，关注设计与建筑领域。
Radiolab：由 Jad Abumrad 和 Robert Krulwich 主持，是一档有着声音纪录片风格的播客节目，用叙事的方法传达科学内容。
NPR 旗下的一档节目：To The Best Of Our Knowledge，专注于深度内容，与小说家、诗人、科学家、记者、历史学家等有远大理想和分享热情的人进行对话。
Love Letters：关注情感话题的播客节目，由作者 Meredith Goldstein 主持。
Lex Fridman Podcast：由 Lex Fridman 创作的长播客，探索智慧、意识、爱与力量的本质的谈话类节目。
The Portal：Eric Weinstein （ Thiel Capital 的 Managing Director）主持的一档播客节目，话题涵盖科学、文化、商业和资本主义。
Platform Thinking：Neo Zhang 的博客网站
The Knowledge Project 采访 Automattic 联合创始人 Matt Mullenweg 的播客单集：Matt Mullenweg: Collaboration Is Key [The Knowledge Project Ep. #100]
【相关节目】

糊糊做客「硅谷早知道」的节目：Bonus | 我们消化了大量海外内容，再来解读 Gamestop 事件
糊糊和枪枪在 Casticle 做的一期节目：#5 迟早更新：「窄播时代」一集谈论关于播客的播客的播客
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{elseif x.user.vipRights.musicPackage && x.user.vipRights.musicPackage.rights}
{if x.user.vipRights.musicPackage.iconUrl}
<img src="${x.user.vipRights.musicPackage.iconUrl}"
class="brand-tag brand-package" />
{else}
<img src="//p1.music.126.net/G2KYG9JjrGGP5grSaXOZaw==/109951163309837705.png"
class="brand-tag brand-package" />
{/if}
{/if}
{/if}
{if !!x.beRepliedUser}
 回复 <a href="/user/home?id=${x.beRepliedUser.userId}" class="s-fc7">${escape(x.beRepliedUser.nickname)}</a>
${getAuthIcon(x.beRepliedUser)}
{if x.beRepliedUser.vipRights}
{if x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.redplus && x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.redplus.vipCode === 300 && x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.redplus.rights && x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.redplus.iconUrl}
<img src="${x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.redplus.iconUrl}" class="brand-tag brand-svip" />
{elseif x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.associator && x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.associator.rights}
{if x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.redVipAnnualCount >= 1}
<img src="//p1.music.126.net/y8pM-M1mytg6B1ThedCbJA==/109951163709550847.png" class="brand-tag brand-vip"/>
{elseif x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.associator.iconUrl}
<img src="${x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.associator.iconUrl}"
class="brand-tag brand-vip" />
{else}
<img src="//p1.music.126.net/iOnYL-pAvH2LuQfStGOjfQ==/109951163709553273.png"
class="brand-tag brand-vip" />
{/if}
{elseif x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.musicPackage && x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.musicPackage.rights}
{if x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.musicPackage.iconUrl}
<img src="${x.beRepliedUser.vipRights.musicPackage.iconUrl}"
class="brand-tag brand-package" />
{else}
<img src="//p1.music.126.net/G2KYG9JjrGGP5grSaXOZaw==/109951163309837705.png"
class="brand-tag brand-package" />
{/if}
{/if}
{/if}
{/if}
：${getRichText(escape(x.content),'s-fc7')}
{if !!x.expressionUrl}
<div class="u-expression"><img src="${x.expressionUrl}?param=70y70"></img></div>
{/if}
</div>
{if x.beReplied&&x.beReplied.length}
{var replied = x.beReplied[0]}
<div class="que f-brk f-pr s-fc3">
<span class="darr"><i class="bd">◆</i><i class="bg">◆</i></span>
{if replied&&replied.content}
<a class="s-fc7" href="/user/home?id=${replied.user.userId}">${replied.user.nickname}${getAuthIcon(replied.user)}</a>
{if replied.user.vipRights}
{if replied.user.vipRights.redplus && replied.user.vipRights.redplus.vipCode === 300 && replied.user.vipRights.redplus.rights && replied.user.vipRights.redplus.iconUrl}
<img src="${replied.user.vipRights.redplus.iconUrl}" class="brand-tag brand-svip" />
{elseif replied.user.vipRights.associator && replied.user.vipRights.associator.rights}
{if replied.user.vipRights.redVipAnnualCount >= 1}
<img src="//p1.music.126.net/y8pM-M1mytg6B1ThedCbJA==/109951163709550847.png" class="brand-tag brand-vip"/>
{elseif replied.user.vipRights.associator.iconUrl}
<img src="${replied.user.vipRights.associator.iconUrl}"
class="brand-tag brand-vip" />
{else}
<img src="//p1.music.126.net/iOnYL-pAvH2LuQfStGOjfQ==/109951163709553273.png"
class="brand-tag brand-vip" />
{/if}
{elseif replied.user.vipRights.musicPackage && replied.user.vipRights.musicPackage.rights}
{if replied.user.vipRights.musicPackage.iconUrl}
<img src="${replied.user.vipRights.musicPackage.iconUrl}"
class="brand-tag brand-package" />
{else}
<img src="//p1.music.126.net/G2KYG9JjrGGP5grSaXOZaw==/109951163309837705.png"
class="brand-tag brand-package" />
{/if}
{/if}
{/if}
：${getRichText(escape(replied.content),'s-fc7')}
{else}
该评论已删除
{/if}
</div>
{/if}
<div class="rp">
<div class="time s-fc4">${timeformat(x.time)}</div>
{if GUser&&GUser.userId&&(GUser.userId==x.user.userId||GUser.userId==resUserId)}
<span class="dlt">
<a href="javascript:void(0)" class="s-fc3" data-id="${x.commentId}" data-type="delete">删除</a><span class="sep">|</span>
</span>
{else}
<span class="dlt"><span style="display: none;" class="j-delete-comment"><a href="javascript:void(0)" class="s-fc3" data-id="${x.commentId}" {if x.topCommentId}data-tid="${x.topCommentId}" {/if}data-type="delete">删除</a><span class="sep">|</span></span></span>
{/if}
<a data-id="${x.commentId}" data-type="{if !x.liked}like{else}unlike{/if}" href="javascript:void(0)"><i class="zan u-icn2 u-icn2-{if x.liked}13{else}12{/if}"></i>{if x.likedCount} (${getPlayCount(x.likedCount)}){/if}</a>
<span class="sep">|</span>
<a href="javascript:void(0)" class="s-fc3" data-id="${x.commentId}" data-type="reply">回复</a>
</div>
</div>
</div>
{/list}

<div class="lyct lyct-1 f-cb">
<div class="m-lyshare">
<ul class="m-tabs1 j-flag">
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</ul>
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<div class="j-flag"></div>
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<div class="u-txtwrap f-pr">
<textarea class="u-txt area j-flag" placeholder="说点什么吧" data-action="txt"></textarea>
<div class="info f-pr j-flag" data-action="search"></div>
</div>
<div class="oper f-cb">
<div class="face f-fl f-pr">
<i class="u-icn u-icn-36 f-fl j-flag" data-action="emot"></i>
<i class="u-icn u-icn-41 f-fl j-flag" data-action="at"></i>
<i class="u-icn u-icn-97 j-flag f-pr" data-action="upload" data-default></i>
</div>
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</div>
<div class="f-cb j-flag"></div>
<div class="f-cb">
<div class="btnwrap f-fl">
<a class="u-btn2 u-btn2-2 u-btn2-w2 j-flag" hidefocus="true" href="javascript:;" data-action="share"><i>分享</i></a>
<a class="u-btn2 u-btn2-1 u-btn2-w2 j-flag" hidefocus="true" href="javascript:;" data-action="close"><i>取消</i></a>
</div>
<div class="f-cb j-flag f-fr">
<div class="share f-fr">
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<li><a class="u-slg u-slg-db j-t" data-action="sns" data-type="3" hidefocus="true" href="//music.163.com/api/sns/authorize?snsType=3&clientType=web2&callbackType=Binding&forcelogin=true" title="豆瓣网"></a></li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="u-err j-flag"><i class="u-icn u-icn-25"></i><span></span></div>
</div>
</div>

{macro listArtists(artists)}
{list artists as art}
${art.name|mark} 
{/list}
{/macro}
<div class="m-schlist">
<p class="note s-fc3"><a class="s-fc3 xtag" href="/search/#/?s=${keyword}&type=1002">搜“${keyword|cutStr}” 相关用户</a> ></p>
<div class="rap">
{list result.order as index}
{var lst=result[index]}
{if !!lst&&!!lst.length}
<div class="itm f-cb">
{if index=="songs"}
<h3 class="hd"><i class="icn u-icn u-icn-26"></i><em class="f-fl">单曲</em></h3>
<ul class="{if index_index%2!=0}odd{/if} f-cb">
{list lst as song}
<li><a class="s-fc0 f-thide xtag" href="/song?id=${song.id}">${song.name|mark}-${listArtists(song.artists)}</a></li>
{/list}
</ul>
{elseif index=="artists"}
<h3 class="hd"><i class="icn u-icn u-icn-27"></i><em class="f-fl">歌手</em></h3>
<ul class="{if index_index%2!=0}odd{/if} f-cb">
{list lst as artist}
<li><a class="s-fc0 f-thide xtag" href="/artist?id=${artist.id}">${artist.name|mark}</a></li>
{/list}
</ul>
{elseif index=="albums"}
<h3 class="hd"><i class="icn u-icn u-icn-28"></i><em class="f-fl">专辑</em></h3>
<ul class="{if index_index%2!=0}odd{/if} f-cb">
{list lst as album}
<li><a class="s-fc0 f-thide xtag" href="/album?id=${album.id}">${album.name|mark}{if album.artist}-${album.artist.name|mark}{/if}</a></li>
{/list}
</ul>
{elseif index=="playlists"}
<h3 class="hd"><i class="icn u-icn u-icn-29"></i><em class="f-fl">歌单</em></h3>
<ul class="{if index_index%2!=0}odd{/if} f-cb">
{list lst as playlist}
<li><a class="s-fc0 f-thide xtag" href="/playlist?id=${playlist.id}">${playlist.name|mark}</a></li>
{/list}
</ul>
{elseif index=="mvs"}
<h3 class="hd"><i class="icn u-icn u-icn-96"></i><em class="f-fl">视频</em></h3>
<ul class="{if index_index%2!=0}odd{/if} f-cb">
{list lst as mv}
<li><a class="s-fc0 f-thide xtag" href="/mv?id=${mv.id}">MV:${mv.name|mark}{if mv.artistName}-${mv.artistName|mark}{/if}</a></li>
{/list}
</ul>
{/if}
</div>
{/if}
{/list}
</div>
</div>

<table class="m-table {if type=='rank'}m-table-rank{/if}">
<thead>
<tr>
<th class="first {if type=='rank'}wrk{else}w1{/if}"><div class="wp"> </div></th>
<th><div class="wp af0"></div></th>
<th class="w2"><div class="wp af1"></div></th>
<th class="w3"><div class="wp af2"></div></th>
<th class="w4"><div class="wp af3"></div></th>
</tr>
</thead>
<tbody>
{list beg..end as y}
{var x=xlist[y]}
<tr id="${x.id|seed}" class="{if y%2==0}even{/if} {if disable(x)}js-dis{/if}">
<td class="left">
<div class="hd {if type=='rank'}rank{/if}">
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="play" {if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if} class="ply {if isPlaying(x)}ply-z-slt{/if}"> </span>
<span class="num">${y+1}</span>
{if type=='rank'}
<div class="rk rk-1">
{if x.lastRank>=0}
{if y-x.lastRank>0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-74 s-fc10">${y-x.lastRank}</span>
{elseif y-x.lastRank==0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-72 s-fc4">0</span>
{else}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-73 s-fc9">${x.lastRank-y}</span>
{/if}
{else}
<span class="u-icn u-icn-75"></span>
{/if}
</div>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
<td class="">
<div class="f-cb">
<div class="tt">
<div class="ttc">
<span class="txt">
{var alia=songAlia(x)}
<a href="/song?id=${x.id}"><b title="${x.name|escape}{if alia} - (${alia|escape}){/if}">${soil(x.name)}</b></a>{if alia}<span title="${alia|escape}" class="s-fc8"> - (${soil(alia)})</span>{/if}
{if x.mvid>0}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-action="mv" title="播放mv" class="mv">MV</span>
{/if}
</span>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</td>
<td class=" s-fc3">
<span class="u-dur {if canDel}candel{/if}">${dur2time(x.duration/1000)}{if x.ftype==2}<i title="歌曲来自第三方网站" class="migu u-icn2 u-icn2-14"></i>{/if}</span>
<div class="opt hshow">
<a class="u-icn u-icn-81 icn-add" href="javascript:;" title="添加到播放列表" hidefocus="true"
data-res-type="18"
data-res-id="${x.id}"
data-res-action="addto"
{if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if}></a>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="fav" class="icn icn-fav" title="收藏"></span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="share" data-res-name="{if typeof removeQuotes != 'undefined'}${removeQuotes(x.name)}{else}${x.name}{/if}" data-res-author="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}" {if x.album}data-res-pic="${x.album.picUrl}"{/if} class="icn icn-share" title="分享">分享</span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="download" class="icn icn-dl" title="下载"></span>
{if canDel}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="delete" class="icn icn-del" title="删除">删除</span>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
<td class="">
<div class="text" title="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}">
${getArtistName(x.artists, '', '', false, false, true)}
</div>
</td>
{if type=='dayRcmd'}
<td class="hascls">
<div class="f-pr">
<div class="text">{if x.album}<a href="/album?id=${x.album.id}" title="${x.album.name}">${x.album.name}</a>{/if}</div>
<a href="javascript:;" data-res-action="dislike" data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-alg="${x.alg}" class="cls u-icn u-icn-80 f-tid icn-dislike" title="不感兴趣">不感兴趣</a>
</div>
</td>
{else}
<td class="">
<div class="text">
{if x.album}
<a href="/album?id=${x.album.id}" title="${x.album.name|escape}">${soil(x.album.name)}</a>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
{/if}
</tr>
{/list}
</tbody>
</table>

<table class="m-table {if type=='rank'}m-table-rank{else}m-table-album{/if}">
<thead>
<tr>
<th class="first {if type=='rank'}wrk{else}w1{/if}"><div class="wp"> </div></th>
<th><div class="wp">歌曲标题</div></th>
<th class="w2-1"><div class="wp">时长</div></th>
<th class="w4"><div class="wp">歌手</div></th>
</tr>
</thead>
<tbody>
{list beg..end as y}
{var x=xlist[y]}
<tr id="${x.id|seed}" class="{if y%2==0}even{/if} {if disable(x)}js-dis{/if}">
<td class="left">
<div class="hd {if type=='rank'}rank{/if}">
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="play" {if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if} class="ply {if isPlaying(x)}ply-z-slt{/if}"> </span>
<span class="num">${y+1}</span>
{if type=='rank'}
<div class="rk rk-1">
{if x.lastRank>=0}
{if y-x.lastRank>0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-74 s-fc10">${y-x.lastRank}</span>
{elseif y-x.lastRank==0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-72 s-fc4">0</span>
{else}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-73 s-fc9">${x.lastRank-y}</span>
{/if}
{else}
<span class="u-icn u-icn-75"></span>
{/if}
</div>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
{if x.privilege.fee == 1}
<td class="">
<div class="f-cb">
<div class="tt">
<div class="ttc">
<span class="txt">
<i class="u-vip-icn"></i>
{var alia=songAlia(x)}
<a href="/song?id=${x.id}"><b title="${x.name|escape}{if alia} - (${alia|escape}){/if}">${soil(x.name)}</b></a>{if alia}<span title="${alia|escape}" class="s-fc8"> - (${soil(alia)})</span>{/if}
{if x.mvid>0}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-action="mv" title="播放mv" class="mv">MV</span>
{/if}
</span>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</td>
{else}
<td class="">
<div class="f-cb">
<div class="tt">
<div class="ttc">
<span class="txt">
{var alia=songAlia(x)}
<a href="/song?id=${x.id}"><b title="${x.name|escape}{if alia} - (${alia|escape}){/if}">${soil(x.name)}</b></a>{if alia}<span title="${alia|escape}" class="s-fc8"> - (${soil(alia)})</span>{/if}
{if x.mvid>0}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-action="mv" title="播放mv" class="mv">MV</span>
{/if}
</span>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</td>
{/if}
<td class=" s-fc3">
<span class="u-dur {if canDel}candel{/if}">${dur2time(x.duration/1000)}{if x.ftype==2}<i title="歌曲来自第三方网站" class="migu u-icn2 u-icn2-14"></i>{/if}</span>
<div class="opt hshow">
<a class="u-icn u-icn-81 icn-add" href="javascript:;" title="添加到播放列表" hidefocus="true"
data-res-type="18"
data-res-id="${x.id}"
data-res-action="addto"
{if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if}></a>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="fav" class="icn icn-fav" title="收藏"></span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="share" data-res-name="{if typeof removeQuotes != 'undefined'}${removeQuotes(x.name)}{else}${x.name}{/if}" data-res-author="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}" {if x.album}data-res-pic="${x.album.picUrl}"{/if} class="icn icn-share" title="分享">分享</span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="download" class="icn icn-dl" title="下载"></span>
{if canDel}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="delete" class="icn icn-del" title="删除">删除</span>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
<td class="">
<div class="text" title="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}">
${getArtistName(x.artists, '', '/', false, true, true)}
</div>
</td>
</tr>
{/list}
</tbody>
</table>

<table class="m-table m-table-1 m-table-4">
<tbody>
{list beg..end as y}
{var x=xlist[y]}
<tr id="${x.id|seed}" class="{if y%2==0}even{/if} {if disable(x)}js-dis{/if}">
<td class="w1">
<div class="hd">
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="play" {if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if} class="ply {if isPlaying(x)}ply-z-slt{/if}"> </span>
<span class="num">${y+1}</span>
</div>
</td>
<td class="">
<div class="f-cb">
<div class="tt">
<div class="ttc">
<span class="txt">
{var alia=songAlia(x)}
<a href="/song?id=${x.id}"><b title="${x.name|escape}{if alia} - (${alia|escape}){/if}">${soil(x.name)}</b></a>{if alia}<span title="${alia|escape}" class="s-fc8"> - (${soil(alia)})</span>{/if}
{if x.mvid>0}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-action="mv" title="播放mv" class="mv">MV</span>
{/if}
</span>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</td>
<td class="w2-1 s-fc3">
<span class="u-dur {if canDel}candel{/if}">${dur2time(x.duration/1000)}{if x.ftype==2}<i title="歌曲来自第三方网站" class="migu u-icn2 u-icn2-14"></i>{/if}</span>
<div class="opt hshow">
<a class="u-icn u-icn-81 icn-add" href="javascript:;" title="添加到播放列表" hidefocus="true"
data-res-type="18"
data-res-id="${x.id}"
data-res-action="addto"
{if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if}></a>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="fav" class="icn icn-fav" title="收藏"></span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="share" data-res-name="{if typeof removeQuotes != 'undefined'}${removeQuotes(x.name)}{else}${x.name}{/if}" data-res-author="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}" {if x.album}data-res-pic="${x.album.picUrl}"{/if} class="icn icn-share" title="分享">分享</span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="download" class="icn icn-dl" title="下载"></span>
{if canDel}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="delete" class="icn icn-del" title="删除">删除</span>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
<td class="w4">
<div class="text">
{if x.album}
{var transName = x.album.tns && x.album.tns.length > 0 ? x.album.tns[0] : ''}
<a href="/album?id=${x.album.id}" title="${x.album.name|escape}{if transName} - (${transName|escape}){/if}">${soil(x.album.name)}</a>
{if transName}
<span title="${transName|escape}" class="s-fc8"> - (${transName|escape})</span>
{/if}
{/if}
</div>
</td>
</tr>
{/list}
</tbody>
</table>

<table class="m-table m-table-rank">
<thead>
<tr>
<th class="first w1"></th>
<th><div class="wp">标题</div></th>
<th class="w2-1"><div class="wp">时长</div></th>
<th class="w3-1"><div class="wp">歌手</div></th>
</tr>
</thead>
<tbody>
{list beg..end as y}
{var x=xlist[y]}
<tr id="${x.id|seed}" class="{if y%2==0}even{/if} {if disable(x)}js-dis{/if}">
{if y<3}
<td>
<div class="hd">
<span class="num">${y+1}</span>
<div class="rk ">
{if x.lastRank>=0}
{if y-x.lastRank>0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-74 s-fc10">${y-x.lastRank}</span>
{elseif y-x.lastRank==0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-72 s-fc4">0</span>
{else}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-73 s-fc9">${x.lastRank-y}</span>
{/if}
{else}
<span class="u-icn u-icn-75"></span>
{/if}
</div>
</div>
</td>
<td class="rank">
<div class="f-cb">
<div class="tt">
<a href="/song?id=${x.id}">{if x.album}<img class="rpic" src="${x.album.picUrl}?param=50y50&quality=100">{/if}</a>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="play" {if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if} class="ply {if isPlaying(x)}ply-z-slt{/if}"> </span>
<div class="ttc">
<span class="txt">
{var alia=songAlia(x)}
<a href="/song?id=${x.id}"><b title="${x.name|escape}{if alia} - (${alia|escape}){/if}">${soil(x.name)}</b></a>{if alia}<span title="${alia|escape}" class="s-fc8"> - (${soil(alia)})</span>{/if}
{if x.mvid>0}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-action="mv" title="播放mv" class="mv">MV</span>
{/if}
</span>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</td>
{else}
<td>
<div class="hd">
<span class="num">${y+1}</span>
<div class="rk ">
{if x.lastRank>=0}
{if y-x.lastRank>0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-74 s-fc10">${y-x.lastRank}</span>
{elseif y-x.lastRank==0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-72 s-fc4">0</span>
{else}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-73 s-fc9">${x.lastRank-y}</span>
{/if}
{else}
<span class="u-icn u-icn-75"></span>
{/if}
</div>
</div>
</td>
<td class="">
<div class="f-cb">
<div class="tt">
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="play" {if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if} class="ply {if isPlaying(x)}ply-z-slt{/if}"> </span>
<div class="ttc">
<span class="txt">
{var alia=songAlia(x)}
<a href="/song?id=${x.id}"><b title="${x.name|escape}{if alia} - (${alia|escape}){/if}">${soil(x.name)}</b></a>{if alia}<span title="${alia|escape}" class="s-fc8"> - (${soil(alia)})</span>{/if}
{if x.mvid>0}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-action="mv" title="播放mv" class="mv">MV</span>
{/if}
</span>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</td>
{/if}
<td class=" s-fc3">
<span class="u-dur {if canDel}candel{/if}">${dur2time(x.duration/1000)}{if x.ftype==2}<i title="歌曲来自第三方网站" class="migu u-icn2 u-icn2-14"></i>{/if}</span>
<div class="opt hshow">
<a class="u-icn u-icn-81 icn-add" href="javascript:;" title="添加到播放列表" hidefocus="true"
data-res-type="18"
data-res-id="${x.id}"
data-res-action="addto"
{if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if}></a>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="fav" class="icn icn-fav" title="收藏"></span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="share" data-res-name="{if typeof removeQuotes != 'undefined'}${removeQuotes(x.name)}{else}${x.name}{/if}" data-res-author="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}" {if x.album}data-res-pic="${x.album.picUrl}"{/if} class="icn icn-share" title="分享">分享</span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="download" class="icn icn-dl" title="下载"></span>
{if canDel}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="delete" class="icn icn-del" title="删除">删除</span>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
<td class="">
<div class="text" title="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}">
${getArtistName(x.artists, '', '', false, false, true)}
</div>
</td>
</tr>
{/list}
</tbody>
</table>

<table class="m-table m-table-prog">
<tbody id="song-list">
{list beg..end as y}
{var x=xlist[y]}
<tr id="${x.id|seed}" class="{if y%2!=0}even{/if} {if disable(x)}js-dis{/if}">
<td class="first col1">
<div class="hd">
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="play" {if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if} class="ply {if isPlaying(x)}ply-z-slt{/if}"> </span>
<span class="num">${y+1}</span>
</div>
</td>
<td class="col2">
<div class="f-cb">
<div class="tt">
<div class="ttc">
<span class="txt">
{var alia=songAlia(x)}
<a href="/song?id=${x.id}"><b title="${x.name|escape}{if alia} - (${alia|escape}){/if}">${soil(x.name)}</b></a>{if alia}<span title="${alia|escape}" class="s-fc8"> - (${soil(alia)})</span>{/if}
{if x.mvid>0}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-action="mv" title="播放mv" class="mv">MV</span>
{/if}
</span>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</td>
<td class="col3 s-fc3">
<span class="u-dur {if canDel}candel{/if}">${dur2time(x.duration/1000)}{if x.ftype==2}<i title="歌曲来自第三方网站" class="migu u-icn2 u-icn2-14"></i>{/if}</span>
<div class="opt hshow">
<a class="u-icn u-icn-81 icn-add" href="javascript:;" title="添加到播放列表" hidefocus="true"
data-res-type="18"
data-res-id="${x.id}"
data-res-action="addto"
{if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if}></a>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="fav" class="icn icn-fav" title="收藏"></span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="share" data-res-name="{if typeof removeQuotes != 'undefined'}${removeQuotes(x.name)}{else}${x.name}{/if}" data-res-author="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}" {if x.album}data-res-pic="${x.album.picUrl}"{/if} class="icn icn-share" title="分享">分享</span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="download" class="icn icn-dl" title="下载"></span>
{if canDel}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="delete" class="icn icn-del" title="删除">删除</span>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
<td class="col4">
<div class="text" title="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}">
${getArtistName(x.artists, '', '', false, false, true)}
</div>
</td>
<td class="col5">
<div class="text">
{if x.album}
<a href="/album?id=${x.album.id}" title="${x.album.name|escape}">${soil(x.album.name)}</a>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
</tr>
{/list}
</tbody>
</table>

<ul>
{list beg..end as y}
{var x=xlist[y]}
{if extData&&extData.limit&&y>=extData.limit}
{break}
{/if}
{var from=getFrom()}
<li id="${x.id|seed}" {if y%2 !=0 }class='even'{/if}>
<div class="hd ">
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="play" {if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if} class="ply {if isPlaying(x)}ply-z-slt{/if}"> </span>
<span class="num">${y+1}.</span>
</div>
<div class="song">
<div class="tt">
<div class="ttc">
<span class="txt"><a href="/song?id=${x.id}"><b title="${x.name}">${x.name}</b></a>
<span class='ar s-fc8'> <em>-</em>
${getArtistName(x.artists, 's-fc8')}
</span>
</span>
</div>
</div>
<div class="opt">
<a class="u-icn u-icn-81 icn-add" href="javascript:;" title="添加到播放列表" hidefocus="true" data-res-type="18" data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-action="addto" {if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if}></a>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="subscribe" class="icn icn-fav" title="收藏"></span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="share" data-res-name="${x.name}" data-res-author="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}" class="icn icn-share" title="分享">分享</span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="download" class="icn icn-dl" title="下载">下载</span>
</div>
</div>
<div class="tops">
<span class="bg" style='width:${x.score*100/x.max}%;'></span>
{if extData.showCount&&x.playCount}<span class="times f-ff2">${x.playCount}次</span>{/if}
</div>
</li>
{/list}
</ul>
{if extData&&extData.limit&&xlist.length>extData.limit}
<div class="more">
<a href="/user/songs/rank?id=${hostId}" >查看更多></a>
</div>
{/if}

{list beg..end as y}
{var x=xlist[y]}
<tr id="${x.id|seed}" class="{if y%2==1}even{/if} {if disable(x)}js-dis{/if}">
<td class="left">
<div class="hd {if type=='rank'}rank{/if}">
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="play" {if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if} class="ply {if isPlaying(x)}ply-z-slt{/if}"> </span>
<span class="num">${y+1}</span>
{if type=='rank'}
<div class="rk rk-1">
{if x.lastRank>=0}
{if y-x.lastRank>0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-74 s-fc10">${y-x.lastRank}</span>
{elseif y-x.lastRank==0}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-72 s-fc4">0</span>
{else}
<span class="ico u-icn u-icn-73 s-fc9">${x.lastRank-y}</span>
{/if}
{else}
<span class="u-icn u-icn-75"></span>
{/if}
</div>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
<td class="u-hasopt">
<div class="f-cb">
<div class="tt">
<div class="ttc">
<span class="txt">
{var alia=songAlia(x)}
<a href="/song?id=${x.id}"><b title="${x.name|escape}{if alia} - (${alia|escape}){/if}">${soil(x.name)}</b></a>{if alia}<span title="${alia|escape}" class="s-fc8"> - (${soil(alia)})</span>{/if}
{if x.mvid>0}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-action="mv" title="播放mv" class="mv">MV</span>
{/if}
</span>
</div>
</div>
<div class="opt hshow">
<a class="u-icn u-icn-81 icn-add" href="javascript:;" title="添加到播放列表" hidefocus="true"
data-res-type="18"
data-res-id="${x.id}"
data-res-action="addto"
{if from}data-res-from="${from.fid}" data-res-data="${from.fdata}"{/if}></a>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="fav" class="icn icn-fav" title="收藏"></span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="share" data-res-name="{if typeof removeQuotes != 'undefined'}${removeQuotes(x.name)}{else}${x.name}{/if}" data-res-author="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}" {if x.album}data-res-pic="${x.album.picUrl}"{/if} class="icn icn-share" title="分享">分享</span>
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="download" class="icn icn-dl" title="下载"></span>
{if canDel}
<span data-res-id="${x.id}" data-res-type="18" data-res-action="delete" class="icn icn-del" title="删除">删除</span>
{/if}
</div>
</div>
</td>
<td class="">
<div class="text" title="{list x.artists as art}${art.name}{if art_index<x.artists.length-1}/{/if}{/list}">
${getArtistName(x.artists, '', '', false, false, true)}
</div>
</td>
<td class="">
<div class="text">
{if x.album}
<a href="/album?id=${x.album.id}" title="${x.album.name|escape}">${soil(x.album.name)}</a>
{/if}
</div>
</td>
<td class="s-fc3">${formatTime(x.paidTime)}</td>
</tr>
{/list}

<a {if buyed==true||programFeeType<10}data-res-action="play"{else}data-res-action="programtips"{/if} data-res-id="2487275823" data-res-radioid="348899099" data-res-type="17" data-res-radiotype="djradio" class="u-btni u-btni-play" href="#"><i>播放 54分25秒</i></a>
{if !liked}
<a {if buyed==true||programFeeType<10}data-action="like"{else}data-res-action="programtips"{/if} data-res-radiotype="djradio" data-res-id="2487275823" data-res-radioid="348899099" href="javascript:void(0)" hidefocus="true" class="u-btn2 u-btn2-1 u-btn2-icn"><i><em class="icn icn-praise"></em><span class="f-fl">{if likedCount>0}(${likedCount|getPlayCount}){else}赞{/if}</span></i></a>
{else}
<a {if buyed==true||programFeeType<10}data-action="unlike"{else}data-res-action="programtips"{/if} data-res-radiotype="djradio" data-res-id="2487275823" data-res-radioid="348899099" href="javascript:void(0)" hidefocus="true" class="u-btn2 u-btn2-1 u-btn2-icn"><i><em class="icn icn-praised"></em><span class="f-fl">{if likedCount>0}(${likedCount|getPlayCount}){else}赞{/if}</span></i></a>
{/if}
<a {if buyed==true||programFeeType<10}data-action="comment"{else} data-res-action="programtips"{/if} data-res-radiotype="djradio" data-res-id="2487275823" data-res-radioid="348899099" class="u-btni u-btni-cmmt" href="javascript:void(0)" hidefocus="true">${commentCount|getPlayCount|formatCountBtnInner:'评论'}</a>
<a data-res-id="${id}" {if buyed==true||programFeeType<10}data-res-action="share"{else}data-res-action="programtips"{/if} data-res-type="17" data-res-name="${name|escape}" data-res-radiotype="djradio" data-res-radioid="348899099" data-res-author="${radio.name|escape}" data-res-pic="${coverUrl}" data-res-auditstatus="${auditStatus}" class="u-btni u-btni-share" href="javascript:void(0)" hidefocus="true">${shareCount|default:0|getPlayCount|formatCountBtnInner:'分享'}</a>
<a data-res-id="${id}" data-res-type="17" data-res-radiotype="djradio" data-res-radioid="348899099" {if buyed==true||programFeeType<10}data-res-action="download"{else}data-res-action="programtips"{/if} class="u-btni u-btni-dl" href="javascript:;"><i>下载</i></a>
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